A Covered-up Catastrophe - Outdoor Education Instructor Pali Institute Employee Review

1.0
Feb 6, 2016
Recommend
CEO approval
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Pros

The view is nice.

Cons

Nightmare situation. Long hours, bad weather, and small paychecks are not my complaint, as these are part of (even the point of?) any outdoor education post. The problem with Pali is that it's dismal pay for a largely unsupported employee experience. Management is money-minded, stuck in their ways, and apathetic to suggestions for improvement. Cliquishness among returning staff is rampant, ignored by leadership, and happens because it's such a hard-scrabble environment. While some of the seasonal staff are going to be good, motivated educators and passionate outdoor people, their talents and natural instincts are the only thing protecting students from accidents and harm. General safety policy is misguided or missing to the point of being dangerous to students, who are not prepared for Pali when they arrive, and are told to get through uncomfortable situations rather than dialing back for safety. Facilities are understocked, rickety, and in some cases literally falling apart. The main goal of the owner is to maximize profit, not to provide education. I witnessed or was the focus of several racist and sexist comments/jokes. Turnover is big every season because once you get there and see how it's run, you can't get out fast enough.

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Pali Institute Response
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Thank you for taking the time to review Pali Institute. We have implemented a number of changes over the years to help with the concerns you have listed here. If you would like to learn more, please feel free to reach me at skane@palimountain.com.

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5.0
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Pros

Great community. Everyone is always willing to go on an adventure during time off. The classes are fun, and overall it is more fun than it is work. well paid for a seasonal camp esque job.

Cons

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2.0
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Pros

Many coworkers are amazing. Free housing. Most of your meals are provided. The people are the only reason so many people stay as long as they do- you'll probably meet lifelong friends here.

Cons

A very high turnover rate because people are absolutely worked to the bone. If you are in cabin, you only get 1.5 hours off a day. You're literally working 22.5 hours a day, on call for any issues in the cabin. The lack of time off and staff support is abysmal. Leadership is very cliquey and not approachable. Bed bugs are common in the cabins. So much of this job is behavior management of the kids. If you planned on this role focusing on outdoor education, it hardly does. So many people here lose their spark because there is simply no work-life balance. Also, some very weird people work here, and even with HR complaints against them, they are still employed because Pali needs the high staff numbers to have enough people to put in cabin. This company is very much focused on profits first. Never met the CEO during the season. Talked to the director Emily maybe twice. Very disconnected and doesn't feel like there's a purpose to working here besides making the company as much money as possible.

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